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[quote]原帖由 [i]乐水[/i] 于 2007-8-20 22:18 发表 [url=http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=36938&ptid=103][img]http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url] V/Le*BJ y
恩．．您的讲义我（寒假班学生）都有...就是您后来上传的场景分类及每日旧托福的文本（pdf）格式好象真的打不了啊～（文档属性即为不可打印）．．莫非是我不会用？到底是怎么回事？？５５５．．惭愧 [/quote]7t[vMK

{T7y,Pcp 可以打开哦……好象是不能打印……等有时间我重新做一下PDF 的文件……但是打开还是可以打开的……

[quote]原帖由 [i]arondes[/i] 于 2007-8-20 09:41 发表 [url=http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=36727&ptid=103][img]http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
5aG4jQ3W1oqv E(z 什么叫做听写时的“一个句子”？ d$n|4eB zi
是指“，”结束还是“.”结束？这么问是因为cool edit并不能区分中间的停顿是什么，有时候说完半句，声音也会有一段停顿。?:{[%wXRB
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（3）cool edit是可以区分的……只需要你用你的鼠标的滚轮上下滚动……就可以把中间的区分变大……9Rf|;ML_&IL!B [*Tu
（4）如果是半句那就再来半句知道一句结束……

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怎么有效的进行语音识别训练？与听写一样吗?

老师，我想再问下，听写是怎么算时间的啊？是把跟读模仿的时间和听一句写一句的时间加起来还是只算听一句写一句的时间啊？;WP}vE
ps：今天听写我就恨不得不考托福了，太TMD差了，就没对一个句子！！！！:Q

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呵阿~那辛苦小马哥了..我会常来关注

[quote]原帖由 [i]hyc8762[/i] 于 2007-8-22 21:33 发表 [url=http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=37554&ptid=103][img]http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]6p+Lq)m'{+mWb
老师，我想再问下，听写是怎么算时间的啊？是把跟读模仿的时间和听一句写一句的时间加起来还是只算听一句写一句的时间啊？n]pv,vI!YN5sxb
ps：今天听写我就恨不得不考托福了，太TMD差了，就没对一个句子！！！！:Q [/quote]
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t8Gu8dQUB.N 知道差并不可怕……可怕的不知道差……更可怕的是知道了差却不去想差在哪里……

[quote]原帖由 [i]chase4ever[/i] 于 2007-8-22 00:02 发表 [url=http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=37396&ptid=103][img]http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]\R @L8[^1W H1]
怎么有效的进行语音识别训练？与听写一样吗? [/quote]L^6a$\[P G/e
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跟读和模仿是最有效的语音识别训练方法……另外做听写的同时也同步提高你的语音识别训练……

哦,这样啊.......

老师,哪个场景分类上历史类的第三篇哪个男的说的第一句话是 well,what can't you understand  form the notes把？不是 well,what can't you understand on you notes把？

同样是那篇文章,老师,我怎么听到那个男的在第三次讲话时说 （我格开的是原文中没有的）
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这到底是我的幻觉呢，还是什么？？

[quote]原帖由 [i]hyc8762[/i] 于 2007-8-23 12:15 发表 [url=http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=37681&ptid=103][img]http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]#A"dL(RwUw
老师,哪个场景分类上历史类的第三篇哪个男的说的第一句话是 well,what can't you understand  form the notes把？不是 well,what can't you understand on you notes把？ [/quote]
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[quote]原帖由 [i]hyc8762[/i] 于 2007-8-23 17:51 发表 [url=http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=37715&ptid=103][img]http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
p8Hp)lO 同样是那篇文章,老师,我怎么听到那个男的在第三次讲话时说 （我格开的是原文中没有的）N%^j\!Enql)~:N
let's      think
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YY?G3e(l g5P 我没看明白你的意思……请你具体说出你的识别上的问题好么？

小马老师跟读模仿很重要吗？？一定要练到不用看原文就可以跟读吗？很痛苦啊

[quote]原帖由 [i]qingtianwawa[/i] 于 2007-8-25 11:16 发表 [url=http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=38103&ptid=103][img]http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
}+z,S1~!p5F)O 小马老师跟读模仿很重要吗？？一定要练到不用看原文就可以跟读吗？很痛苦啊 [/quote]
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B K8[&`-KM? z+N 这个随你自己的爱好和时间吧……我当年的时候是很喜欢不看原文去跟着读的……因为这样给我很酷的感觉……只带着耳机嘴在狂说……别人说你什么你却不知道的感觉不错……:JLxHumx+gP W
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跟读模仿是培养听力的感觉的……锻炼语音识别的能力的……一定要做到第二 步：边听边看边读……

在听力中遇到稍微不熟一点的单词，要反应很久才能想出意思，会更不上，但看阅读的话就完全没问题，能快速反应单词意思。

跟读模仿

:) 马老师,我觉得做跟读模仿时经常听见录音和自己的声音,混合着,是不是有干扰,觉得边听边读有时候还是按自己的读法去读,没太注意录音,你说是不是跟读时把录音放大声点?

是听力原文的打印错误还是我的幻觉

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M: [color=Red]There's not much [/color] [color=Blue](They have)[/color] difference [color=Red]in the [/color] [color=Blue] (with)[/color] old dorms, just some new pane and windows, the windows are nice [color=Red]though[/color] [color=Blue](s o)[/color] .They shut off the noise really well. The street just outside, but i can barely hear the traffic.

n4Q%h~k vYh W: Um, they must be good windows, i bet [color=Red]they have panes and glass[/color] [color=Blue](they must have panes and glasses)[/color] that shut off a lot of noise that the single pane wouldn't stop.
#a3^)Y8y,{ M: Yeap, I wish i had something just [color=Red]effective [/color] [color=Blue](the factor)[/color] between me and my neighbour's room. Sometimes he turns up the music so loud and i have trouble getting into sleep. Anyway i guess that's better off for the people who [color=Red]will be [/color] [color=Blue](be)[/color] moving into the new dorms. Did you see how thin [color=Red]the[/color](听力稿中没有) there that they putting up between those dorms?xdZ(N`3{
W: I haven't see [color=Red]them[/color] but i did read something about [color=Red]them[/color] in the campus newspaper[color=Blue].(听力稿中没有两个them)[/color] They are supposed to be better then the thick concrete wall you've got here.
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[color=Black]M:[/color] [color=Black]Oh, I see, so the sound [/color][color=Red]from one room[/color] [color=Blue](from the one room)[/color] [color=Black]doesn't just vibrate the wall and go directly to [/color][color=Red]the[/color] [color=Blue](听力稿中没有)[/color][color=Black] next room[/color]. [color=Black]There's a gap between [/color][color=Red]the[/color] [color=Blue](听力稿中没有) [/color][color=Black]two layers of wall.[/color]i/]J6_i
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W: [color=Black]You know [/color][color=Red]having[/color] [color=Blue](heavy)[/color] [color=Black]bear wall doesn't help. You should [/color][color=Black]hang something up like [/color][color=Blue]some[/color] (听力稿中没有) [color=Black]fur rags or some [/color][color=Black]decorated cross that would act like a kind of the second wall and absorb some [/color][color=Red]of the[/color] (听力稿中没有)[color=Black] sound.[/color] [color=Red]I've[/color] [color=Blue](I)[/color] [color=Black]got some [/color][color=Black]extra you can use, if [/color][color=Red]you'd[/color] [color=Black]like[/color] [color=Blue](you)[/color].ze2CG4b oY&R:Lc
[color=Black]M: I'd appreciate; anything coud got a good night sleep.[/color]YVaU(@]
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[quote]原帖由 [i]anitazxcvb[/i] 于 2007-8-27 00:07 发表 [url=http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=38348&ptid=103][img]http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url] w.Q/JTL0iG
在听力中遇到稍微不熟一点的单词，要反应很久才能想出意思，会更不上，但看阅读的话就完全没问题，能快速反应单词意思。 [/quote]
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$AuI5HjK)J1~!o 那是因为（1）阅读的文字在纸上不会消失 （2）你用眼睛去理解信息，容易的同时可以猜测5}
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所以你应该让你的耳朵多熟悉单词……进而不要因为反映某个词的时间影响你理解这个句子的时间

[quote]原帖由 [i]hahahaha[/i] 于 2007-8-27 20:11 发表 [url=http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=38422&ptid=103][img]http://www.xiaomaguohe.net/bbs/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
:`%h]{5raRk"G,x :) 马老师,我觉得做跟读模仿时经常听见录音和自己的声音,混合着,是不是有干扰,觉得边听边读有时候还是按自己的读法去读,没太注意录音,你说是不是跟读时把录音放大声点? [/quote]|v;u lM"ea
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所以（1）在刚开始做跟读的时候建议带着耳机（2）做个一段时间后可以用外放……这样可以协调你的问题 S2~9W(|}*TR3[#j,~H

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是听力稿打印错误还是我的耳朵产生了幻觉

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W: Can I help you find something? Oh, hi, Rick!
8G:BBFDQER M: Oh, hi, Julie. When [color=Red]did[/color] [color=Blue](do)[/color] you start working here? I thought you were waiting table [color=Red]at Terassa's Cafe[/color] [color=Blue](to serve coffee)[/color] .
W xR%i zXT W: Yeap, i quitted because I have worked too many nights. I started here just [color=Red]a few[/color] [color=Blue](few)[/color] days ago. It's perfect! I work all afternoon [color=Red]shift[/color] [color=Blue](sheet)[/color]. So my mornings are free for classes, and i can study at night. So what are you  looking for?
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W: Um...English 626...English626... Are you sure they are8?
LuPq)G*{ M: Yeah, they are 8 titles on my [color=Red]?[/color] [color=Blue](shortlist)[/color]. And look, the card on the shelf [color=Red]has[/color] [color=Blue](had)[/color] 8 listed. But i can only find 7 of the books.
Vx'y}*rno:p W: You are right. Oh, here they are. They are  on the wrong [color=Red]shelf[/color] [color=Blue](shelves)[/color] over here by economics books. I have to put these [color=Red]with[/color] [color=Blue](into the)[/color] English books [color=Red]so that[/color] [color=Blue](so)[/color] they are not so hard to find.%FsB_T:G*U2^ Y
M: Thanks a lot. Could you point me the direction of the computer paper?
(PA3w?|*Pc W: Sure. it's 2 or 3 aisles over. Why don't you follow me? It's easier just to show you.
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